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	<title>Comments on: Do Canadian Students Have Any Right to Free Expression? Canadian Court Hears Arguments Today.</title>
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		<title>By: HV Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>HV Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a philosophical problem with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.  Simply, most of the rights listed in the Charter are expressed &quot;positively.&quot;  For example, Section 2, the &quot;fundamental freedoms&quot; section, reads:


	
&quot;2.
  Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and

	
(d) freedom of association.&quot;

Sounds good?  The problem is that when you express it &quot;positively,&quot; the implication is that &lt;i&gt;these rights are a grant of Parliament&lt;/i&gt;, not a fundamental right of the human person, &lt;i&gt;a right granted by God,&lt;/i&gt;

And there is a weasel clause just before it, Section 1: &quot;The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms 
guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such 
reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a
 free and democratic society.&quot;  Carleton University is making the case that suppression of pro-life speech is a &quot;reasonable limit&quot; that &quot;can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.&quot;

In contrast, America&#039;s Bill of Rights states that &quot;Congress shall make no law ...&quot; This is a &quot;negative&quot; expression.  The right of the people to freedom of speech, a right granted by God, is understood.  The Bill of Rights, for the most part, isn&#039;t a bill of rights at all, rather, &lt;i&gt;they are restrictions upon government&lt;/i&gt;.  

Which, do you think, protects the rights of the people better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a philosophical problem with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.  Simply, most of the rights listed in the Charter are expressed &#8220;positively.&#8221;  For example, Section 2, the &#8220;fundamental freedoms&#8221; section, reads:</p>
<p>&#8220;2.<br />
  Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and</p>
<p>(d) freedom of association.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds good?  The problem is that when you express it &#8220;positively,&#8221; the implication is that <i>these rights are a grant of Parliament</i>, not a fundamental right of the human person, <i>a right granted by God,</i></p>
<p>And there is a weasel clause just before it, Section 1: &#8220;The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms<br />
guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such<br />
reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a<br />
 free and democratic society.&#8221;  Carleton University is making the case that suppression of pro-life speech is a &#8220;reasonable limit&#8221; that &#8220;can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.&#8221;</p>
<p>In contrast, America&#8217;s Bill of Rights states that &#8220;Congress shall make no law &#8230;&#8221; This is a &#8220;negative&#8221; expression.  The right of the people to freedom of speech, a right granted by God, is understood.  The Bill of Rights, for the most part, isn&#8217;t a bill of rights at all, rather, <i>they are restrictions upon government</i>.  </p>
<p>Which, do you think, protects the rights of the people better?</p>
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		<title>By: Njchristianmale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Njchristianmale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow such bias she is a student and i heard the cop say she is arrested for trespassing . If it was any other protest this wouldnt happen . I thank God for these students for speaking out for the voiceless. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow such bias she is a student and i heard the cop say she is arrested for trespassing . If it was any other protest this wouldnt happen . I thank God for these students for speaking out for the voiceless. </p>
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		<title>By: Betty Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching this case. God bless her!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching this case. God bless her!</p>
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		<title>By: Cherie Allgood</title>
		<link>http://blog.speakupmovement.org/university/freedom-of-speech/do-canadian-students-have-any-right-to-free-expression-canadian-court-hears-arguments-today/comment-page-1/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>Cherie Allgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so frustrating to see how ignorantly the officers comply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so frustrating to see how ignorantly the officers comply.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemonpleezee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemonpleezee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, this is messed up.  I&#039;ve never seen anything like that at my school.  At the most you could get yelled at by some obnoxious students and faculty but they couldn&#039;t do anything to you.  Then again, I am in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, this is messed up.  I&#8217;ve never seen anything like that at my school.  At the most you could get yelled at by some obnoxious students and faculty but they couldn&#8217;t do anything to you.  Then again, I am in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Guenther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Guenther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This girl in the blue sweatshirt is awesome!! and the law is blind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This girl in the blue sweatshirt is awesome!! and the law is blind!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable to watch, but easy to believe.  Canadian Universities are no more bastians of &quot;free expression&quot; any more than US institutions are, unless you happen to belong to the majority, which are liberal, progressive thinkers.  Any point of view that differs from that, obviously is not protected under free speech or free expression.   I am a Candian living in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable to watch, but easy to believe.  Canadian Universities are no more bastians of &#8220;free expression&#8221; any more than US institutions are, unless you happen to belong to the majority, which are liberal, progressive thinkers.  Any point of view that differs from that, obviously is not protected under free speech or free expression.   I am a Candian living in the US.</p>
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